Why? Pretty sure the Dr can't create, he just manipulates what already exists. create, he could only alter what already exists and was a major focal point in Doomsday Clock. Dr.Manhattan and Captain Atom vs Legion and Franklin Richards:Who will win? Speaking of The One Above All, his evil/dark counterpart The One Below All called Franklin "The Anointed Prince" (which to me sounds a little bit like Heir, as in TOAA is the King and Franklin the Prince and anointed means blessed, so who blessed him? In the end though I'll have to give it to Franklin. DC comics appears to have made Dr. Manhattan an omniversal being (a single 'him' exists in all realities at once) who created the New 52 worlds and altered their timelines at whim. It was NOT him straight rewriting multiverse at all through his power alone at all but by him seeing how events would change timeline if he effected certain events/points within that timeline. Mr Mxy has better feats than Franklin, and Mxy was afraid of Dr Manhattan. @mbatz: Both of them have godlike abilities that if they ever fought, everything in creation would be distorting just like the fight between Molecule Man and Beyonder in Secret Wars 1984. He casually dismantles the Justice League. A portion of Manhattan was able to re create the Multiverse. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He also only seems able to manipulate the time stream (ie he has to move the green lantern away to create a new future instead of just create a new one from scratch) where as Franklin Richards is on a team of people creating new universes for a bit. @green_skaar: SMH the highballing. Dr. Manhattan vs. Franklin Richards. @godgate: Exactly! Thin air if you read ddc you know that Jon did this on a metaversal lvl . Why? https://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/21/dc-universe-rebirth-1-full-spoilers-leak-online, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. lol. https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Jonathan_Osterman_(Watchmen)#Rebirth. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_center,h_675,pg_1,q_80,w_1200/k4gk8udavdf9oetmp6oe.png, https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Jonathan_Osterman_(Watchmen)#Rebirth. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Franklin, like Galactus, is a universal reality warper. And in WM Jon created multiples objects as well, not only manipulation but creation as well. And in WM Jon created multiples objects as well, not only manipulation but creation as well. @green_skaar: I think they might even make a Perpetua who laughs or even The Presence who laughs which kinda baffles me. 0 ... Full power Franklin ftw. Which are very important for Dr. Manhattan, because those are the same forces (his experiments with Intrinsic Field) that torn his atoms to pieces and those are the same forces he uses to put himself together and those are the same forces he uses to disintegrate other beings. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Hard to say because of how Reality Warping works for some characters. Also current Franklin is losing his powers (that doesn't rly matter tho). © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. So if Franklin is fast enough to create a dimension and dumps Dr. Manhattan in there, that should defeat him. That being said, Franklin Richards is stated at being on par with the celestials, and his feats definitely (in my mind) trump Manhattan's. It had to be someone more significant than him to even make such a remark). Also Franklin and Galactus lost to Devil Hulk. and had depleted himself reconstituting galactus Jim Jaspers was able to replace Eternity the creator of the celestials. Speaking of impressive, during Heroes Reborn (#3 I think) a 4 year old threw himself off a cliff, we saw Ashema the Listener relieved to see FR dead only for her to look up in the sky and get an order from her maker (who is the Fulcrum (and for anyone who asks themselves how does he know it was the Fulcrum because it was never stated, I just use logic Tiamut is Ashema's Celestial Brother and we've seen those 2 only speak to the Fulcrum with utmost respect and a subservient attitude, it is also common knowledge that The Fulcrum are created the Celestials) to revive Franklin. After the Beyonders destroyed the Multiverse and Secret Wars, Franklin Richards recreated the Multiverse by making 1263 more universes (and no it wasn't Reed/Beyonders it was Franklin (11-14) it took him 2 or 3 years but he did it). Jakcj 1 y 4 mo 21 d . Both scale to the Celestials which are also 'only' (ha) universal and not omniversal class. Hard to call, Dr M can't create, he can only alter what's already there whereas Franklin has outright created. I can already imagine some of the things they would do... Like can you imagine them turning DC Earth flat just to see what happens or make Darkseid into Superman or turn suns into white ice balls or turn the Guardians of the Universe into Giants instead of Dwarf or try to catch Mr Mxyzptlk or turn Trigon into an Angel. Another reason is that literally nothing seemed to actually kill him and no form energy could affect him (be it magic, energy from the emotional spectrum or energy from electromagnetism). They would freak out for about 10 seconds, and the energy released would take one of the 52 universes with it. I remember fairly well that Manhattan couldn't create, he could only alter what already exists and was a major focal point in Doomsday Clock. If we are simply going off their power sets, I’d say Dr. Manhattan takes the cake. Dr Manhattan of course. Forum Posts. What's up with all this out of context stuff for Dr.M?! It's hard to perfectly quantify these guy's power sets and limits but that is where I land for now. So either Franklin or Jon wins but either way the fight will take a galaxy or universe with it. I remember fairly well that Manhattan couldn't. Manipulating of matter is one of his abilities. The only logical thing to happen is Jon Ossterman becomes Kid Franklin's Godfather. Molecule Man acted as an Anchor (by splitting himself into 1263 versions of himself) to keep those universes together so they didn't drift off (which is impressive but not as impressive as creating 1263 universes). Everyone knows that MM is Wall level at best. He’s basically God. Wally with a portion of Manahattan's power was re creating the entire Multiverse. Also, we are talking adult Franklin Richards from the future at max power with full control over his powers. I mean not only was the guy rewriting DC, he was holding magic in DC as if it's nothing. You are indeed where you belong. Many people neglect Dr Manhattan power mainly because they never read Before Watchmen. Was a big point in Doomsday Clock. Without scans, unlikely to believe he can create new things. And speaking of the Molecule Man, he's Franklin's only equal or superior in the Marvel Universe, especially after Mark Waid's History of the Marvel Universe it can be argued he's an equal, dare I say even less(?). @alisupo1: @lemonsauce: @deactivated-5d59ee082aecf: @arctika: i found this, Franklin is overrated. I know this sounds far fetched but till this day I don't know why Al Ewing wrote TOBA at End of Time making fun and being so proud of killing Franklin Richards. Franklin Richards vs Dr Manhattan # Dr Manhattan Okay I don't really care, Manhattan wins. Both of them are so curious about everything but in such different ways/areas/. He can also create out of nothing. Honestly don't know who would be more powerful, but feel Franklin has overall more impressive feats, so leaning towards him. It should be noted that Franklin Richards best feats were against Mad Celestials, and the Red Celestial was mostly unharmed by his and Galactus' attacks at first. We also find out that at the end of this universe he will be its sole survivor, and he and Galactus will provide what is necessary for the next big bang in the next universe. They lost to TOBA who used Hulk's body as an avatar basically. And the reason I think Franklin would win is because of his ability to manipulate the four fundamental forces. didn't they make a dr manhattan who laughs. In a fight I'd put my money on FR, mostly because of DM's cold, unemotional behaviour. For this battle it does not really even have to be a fight I just want to know who is more powerful. Manhattan and Franklin initially fight before they realize they can't really hurt each other and so after a few minutes or so of wasting their time, they sit down together and contemplate the circumstances of their situation in a nice friendly chat. So if Franklin is fast enough to create a dimension and dumps Dr. Manhattan in there, that should defeat him. In Fantastic Four X-men crossover it is said Franklin has access to a dimension which gives unlimited power. I'd say Manhattan mainly bc of hype. His feats were universal, but due to the way DC cosmos is set up, had multiversal consequences. But both of them are powerful enough that the one that attacks first, may win. Franklin Richards vs Dr Manhattan # Dr Manhattan I agree that Manhattan wins, old Franklin might be a different story though. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Cookies help us deliver our Services. Battle. For this battle it does not really even have to be a fight I just want to know who is more powerful. He altered everything just to analyze the Metaverse, which if you think about it contains the whole DC Universe (but the Silver City, which is just fictionalized of Abrahamic Religions so it doesn't belong in the Metaverse). Follow 1722. The guy was effecting and rewriting universe/metaverse/multiverse/whatever by him traveling to certain points in Time/space and manipulating certain points that then caused reactions that effected the whole. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. That being said, I think for Franklin to match Dr M's potency, we'd need Adult Franklin, which is basically 2 Franklin's combined. Dr. Manhattan wins and he's as powerful as us Watchmen fans were trying to tell you all for over a decade. Doctor Manhattan sees Franklin (a human child with superior godlike abilities than his own) and Franklin sees a blue naked man that talks like Mister Franklin (his adult version). ! A lot of main writers have written Franklin as an nigh omnipotent character, Stan Lee (R.I.P), Mark Waid, Al Ewing, Rob Liefeld, Jonathan Hickman, John Byrne and recently Chip Zdarsky. The Four Fundamental Forces do not exist in a universe without Reality/or Matter and Energy.

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